CraftyPod #97: A Top Etsy Seller Downsizes, with Ryan McAbery

by Sister-Diane on August 2, 2009

in Big Ideas for Small Businesses, Interviews, Podcast


A set of Ryan’s new photo blocks

 

In this show:

- And interview with Ryan McAbery , who was a top seller on Etsy, and then decided to walk away from it.

- Learn what drove Ryan to leave her business behind, and what’s bringing her fresh inspiration now.

- Gain some perspective on the benefits and drawbacks of having a very busy handmade business.

Links:

- Visit Ryan’s new Etsy shop, and see her photography blocks and pendants.

- In Ryan’s blog, All Things Littleput, she shares new designs, snippets of her now-balanced life, and some musings on starting over in business.

- Check out Ryan’s current home – Portland Saturday Market.

- This “Quit Your Day-Job” article on The Storque about Ryan’s top-seller business was published in September 2007.

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  • This is an older podcast, but I'm just catching up and I really appreciate this one. I relate so much. While I certainly didn't sell at the level Ryan did, I was a featured seller and had my fair share of busy in the short year I was active. I got burnt out, stepped back and took a full year off. I'm just about to start again, but plan to do so on a more relaxed scale - very similar to what she has done. Such a great reminder for me that is isn't success I'm after, just a community and a creative outlet.
  • SisterDiane
    Thank you so much for sharing your perspective, Amber! It's amazing how much labor a successful finished-handmade-product business requires. Burnout can happen so easily.

    I wish you all the best as you start down this path again with a fresh outlook!
  • eve
    I understand what she is saying. I sold collectibles on eBay for three years and just got burnt out. Although I was doing really well, it got to the point where I as looking for items for eBay every where. I no longer enjoyed garage sales, or thrift stores. At antique shops I was looking, always looking for items to sell on eBay. I lot the fun of just shopping for my own home.
    I finally just gave away boxes of things and cleared my house of mailing boxes. It was such a relief. Now life is fun again.
    I will always love collectibles but now I shop for fun and when I make money off the crafts I do now, it's all good.
  • This is a really cool episode. I will always think of Ryan fondly as one of the first sellers I ever purchased from and someone I admire so much for allowing us the tutorial to her scrabble tile pendants. I have gifted several of her little accordion journals, which I am now going to have to figure out how to make myself (!?), and a couple of her pendants, and I admire her willingness to be humble and accept when she's only one woman.

    She sent me some washi papers that I am rationing out like gold! Buying more just doesn't seem genuine!!

    oh, I must go now, because I'm getting emotional.

    Chris

    p.s. Can I have Ryan's number?
  • Great podcast again, really makes you think about the idea of making sure you want what you wish for! I don't know if I would be as brave as Ryan, though, walking away from such a successful business.
  • Great interview and good food for thought. It was so nice to get to know Ryan a bit. Thanks to you both and best of luck to Ryan in her new venture(s).

    It's funny. I have gone just the reverse direction. I used to do all the craft fairs and trade shows but got physically exhausted by all the packing, unpacking, setting up and then standing all day to try and attract/welcome people to my booth.

    Now I have a craft website and am just loving setting my own hours, working from home, etc.

    I guess anything gets stale after a while and, as Ryan said, you need to get the balance right - for you.

    The interview is really making me think more carefully about next steps (expand, stay where I am ...).
  • Thank you both for doing this interview. You've really brought to light the same sort of process I've gone through. While I wasn't a top seller, I did come to the conclusion that fear of my designs being stolen was keeping me from creating anew and creating merely for the sake of creating. I was so caught on protecting one single idea that I couldn't let go to create anything new. There was no space in my heart and mind for new ideas to flow - and I'm an idea woman!

    The stuff for my store just sat around in my cabinet for months and selling had become quite disheartening. I have done festivals, but theft & rude people really put me too much on my guard. Plus, mentally, those things were dragging me down. I felt I had to sell them because I made them. When actually, I didn't. They're lovely & I've donated them to someone who will love them. Best part? I've been able to begin creating again.

    I don't sell anything in my stores anymore. It's quite liberating. In fact, it's given me more time to write/blog. Which I'd rather do. I don't care to make duplicates of anything. In fact, I've even stopped making clothes for friends because it too felt like a job that if I didn't finish by X time, then they'd be disappointed. It's much better for me, at the moment, to be spontaneous & allow myself the freedom to create and make as many mistakes as I want without someone being disappointed in my art.

    We should all free our minds a bit more. Create, share, dream, love, pour your emotions into your creations - let them live and breathe as they will.

    Thanks SisterDiane. I've been thinking on this one quite a lot!

  • keysandmemories
    Great interview! I have always been a big fan of Ryans. I don't have her sales numbers but I can really relate to her comments.

    Etsy can consume your life- I have struggled with this myself. My friend Bonnie ( Hello Crafty) helped me take a look around and step back.

    I don't think some sellers understand what happens when you have Ryans success. It is all consuming and leaves no time for anything else. Noticing some comments on the Etsy thread, I see sellers saying they want the sales not realizing that everything else suffers. I know my husband has commented that my business is #1 in my life which I know I need to change. I think an online business is a 24/7 thing, always there, never going away, or having 9-5 hours.

    I really can appreciate Ryans comments about no socialization running an online shop as well. I have recently considered doing some live shows just to get out of the house and see other humans. I am so glad I listened to this podcast. Best wished Ryan!!
  • Thanks for another great podcast!
  • it was slow this weekend because of the heat girl ;)
  • This was a great interview, thank you. I often struggle with the what-ifs of pushing my business to the next level, and come back to what Ryan discovered--being a top seller means making huge sacrifices, and maybe it's not the best goal for every maker/artist. Thanks so much for this, great food for thought. Thanks to Ryan for being so forthcoming about her experience!
  • Fantastic interview! Thank you so much for following up with Ryan. It really made a lot of sense, and I think that you both touched on some very important, often not-talked about aspects of working for yourself and living by your own creativity.

    Loved it, thanks!
  • joannajorgensen
    Ryan continues to be an insipration to me both with her previous success on Etsy & her determination to keep her craft true to herself & remembering what is truely important for your own personal meaning of success.
    I continue to learn from her example.
  • What a good reminder that we all need a life balance and that the best creativity comes from the heart.
  • SisterDiane
    Thanks, Kirsty! I agree - Ryan's story is a beautiful example of how
    important it is to step away and enjoy life.
  • How funny, just last night I was listening to Ryan's earlier podcast again. Now I shall sit down with a cup of tea and my sewing and listen to this one.
  • anneclarke
    AnneClarke
    AnneClarke says:
    Littleput,
    That was a great interview. It is nice to hear someone talk about getting life into balance. It's too easy to get sucked into the 24/7 world of the internet. I've recently decided that instead of trying to become tech savvy (googlebase, blogging, etc. etc.) I am going to focus on selling locally. It feels like a relief in many ways.
    Best of luck to you!
  • That was an enlightening and very human interview. It made me feel good about my own personal choices, decisions and work ethic. It was nice to hear your voice Ryan :)

    Balance, health and happiness in life is really, all that matters.

    I wish you the best in your present and future endeavors!
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