Comments on: Indie Publishing Stories, Part 2: The New CRAFT! http://www.craftypod.com/2009/12/03/indie-publishing-stories-part-2-the-new-craft/ Let's Make Stuff. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:01:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: tortagialla http://www.craftypod.com/2009/12/03/indie-publishing-stories-part-2-the-new-craft/comment-page-1/#comment-72932 tortagialla Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:34:41 +0000 http://www.craftypod.com/?p=1680#comment-72932 You're right, perhaps there's another forum for this discussion, because it's definitely a growing and changing subject, the value of content and how does one go about selling it. Thanks for your thoughts, nice to know people care about all this, especially since so many of us are content producers at the heart of it... You're right, perhaps there's another forum for this discussion, because it's definitely a growing and changing subject, the value of content and how does one go about selling it. Thanks for your thoughts, nice to know people care about all this, especially since so many of us are content producers at the heart of it…

]]> By: SisterDiane http://www.craftypod.com/2009/12/03/indie-publishing-stories-part-2-the-new-craft/comment-page-1/#comment-72931 SisterDiane Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:47:56 +0000 http://www.craftypod.com/?p=1680#comment-72931 BOY, are you correct there - the value of content is an enormous <br>discussion!<br><br>And we are in a total frontier moment with the pricing of digital <br>material - which is really in some ways "pure content." It's hard to <br>find a price point people will readily pay - and still challenging for <br>people who buy digital content to find out in advance whether the <br>content is of good quality. You can thumb through a magazine on the <br>newsstand and see if it's something you want to buy, but that's a lot <br>harder to offer with an ebook.<br><br>Anyway. I could go on about this stuff all day. :-) BOY, are you correct there – the value of content is an enormous
discussion!

And we are in a total frontier moment with the pricing of digital
material – which is really in some ways “pure content.” It's hard to
find a price point people will readily pay – and still challenging for
people who buy digital content to find out in advance whether the
content is of good quality. You can thumb through a magazine on the
newsstand and see if it's something you want to buy, but that's a lot
harder to offer with an ebook.

Anyway. I could go on about this stuff all day. :-)

]]> By: tortagialla http://www.craftypod.com/2009/12/03/indie-publishing-stories-part-2-the-new-craft/comment-page-1/#comment-72930 tortagialla Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:36:01 +0000 http://www.craftypod.com/?p=1680#comment-72930 Thanks for the response! I suppose advertisers have been footing the bill for too long and we the public do have to pay for content more consciously than ever before. I've certainly changed a bit myself in that paying $15 or $20 a magazine isn't too much when I really want the content. It does bring up an interesting issue of online versus print content - it costs less to buy the PDF version versus print version of some content...but sometimes I'm not sure the pricing is accurate. To me anyway, it seems the value of the content tends to get skewed...or more often than not undervalued. Thanks for the response! I suppose advertisers have been footing the bill for too long and we the public do have to pay for content more consciously than ever before. I've certainly changed a bit myself in that paying $15 or $20 a magazine isn't too much when I really want the content. It does bring up an interesting issue of online versus print content – it costs less to buy the PDF version versus print version of some content…but sometimes I'm not sure the pricing is accurate. To me anyway, it seems the value of the content tends to get skewed…or more often than not undervalued.

]]> By: SisterDiane http://www.craftypod.com/2009/12/03/indie-publishing-stories-part-2-the-new-craft/comment-page-1/#comment-72929 SisterDiane Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:08:34 +0000 http://www.craftypod.com/?p=1680#comment-72929 I agree with you - it's definitely a hard moment in magazine <br>publishing. I believe print mags will eventually come back but I see <br>two evolutions needing to happen: first, publishers will hopefully <br>grow to operate in a leaner, more profitable way. They'll have to find <br>other ways to monetize besides print advertising. And I think they'll <br>have to evolve their content so that it's more distinct and special <br>when held up next to online craft content. (Which, for the record, I <br>think CRAFT did extremely well.)<br><br>And then, we (the magazine-buying public) need to evolve, too. We've <br>had a pretty easy ride with content for a long time - because <br>advertisers were footing most of the bill. But, buffeted with ads for <br>decades, we're all pretty good at tuning them out now. If we want to <br>avoid so much advertising in our lives, then we have to pay more to <br>support the people who create the content we consume.<br><br>It'll be chaotic for a while, but I think good things will come from <br>it eventually. I agree with you – it's definitely a hard moment in magazine
publishing. I believe print mags will eventually come back but I see
two evolutions needing to happen: first, publishers will hopefully
grow to operate in a leaner, more profitable way. They'll have to find
other ways to monetize besides print advertising. And I think they'll
have to evolve their content so that it's more distinct and special
when held up next to online craft content. (Which, for the record, I
think CRAFT did extremely well.)

And then, we (the magazine-buying public) need to evolve, too. We've
had a pretty easy ride with content for a long time – because
advertisers were footing most of the bill. But, buffeted with ads for
decades, we're all pretty good at tuning them out now. If we want to
avoid so much advertising in our lives, then we have to pay more to
support the people who create the content we consume.

It'll be chaotic for a while, but I think good things will come from
it eventually.

]]> By: fanieart http://www.craftypod.com/2009/12/03/indie-publishing-stories-part-2-the-new-craft/comment-page-1/#comment-72927 fanieart Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:05:09 +0000 http://www.craftypod.com/?p=1680#comment-72927 I am in love with their new design! I was wondering what they would do as they did say that they would come back online. I'm glad with the approach they took. <br><br>Maybe it could be interesting if they'd print "Special issues" with their "best of" or with a theme? I'd still love to get a little print in my hand once in awhile. :-) I am in love with their new design! I was wondering what they would do as they did say that they would come back online. I'm glad with the approach they took.

Maybe it could be interesting if they'd print “Special issues” with their “best of” or with a theme? I'd still love to get a little print in my hand once in awhile. :-)

]]> By: cinderellen http://www.craftypod.com/2009/12/03/indie-publishing-stories-part-2-the-new-craft/comment-page-1/#comment-72928 cinderellen Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:06:12 +0000 http://www.craftypod.com/?p=1680#comment-72928 The new layout is stylish and attractive, although I got a bit turned around on it. I suspect that is because I came over in the middle via Twitter rather than starting at the home page. I miss the nice list of links from the old site, though. Like you, I am still mourning the demise of the print version. Obviously it could never be as up-to-the-minute current as a web only publication, but it was a great resource and so easy to take along. The new layout is stylish and attractive, although I got a bit turned around on it. I suspect that is because I came over in the middle via Twitter rather than starting at the home page. I miss the nice list of links from the old site, though. Like you, I am still mourning the demise of the print version. Obviously it could never be as up-to-the-minute current as a web only publication, but it was a great resource and so easy to take along.

]]> By: tortagialla http://www.craftypod.com/2009/12/03/indie-publishing-stories-part-2-the-new-craft/comment-page-1/#comment-69666 tortagialla Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:34:41 +0000 http://www.craftypod.com/?p=1680#comment-69666 You're right, perhaps there's another forum for this discussion, because it's definitely a growing and changing subject, the value of content and how does one go about selling it. Thanks for your thoughts, nice to know people care about all this, especially since so many of us are content producers at the heart of it... You're right, perhaps there's another forum for this discussion, because it's definitely a growing and changing subject, the value of content and how does one go about selling it. Thanks for your thoughts, nice to know people care about all this, especially since so many of us are content producers at the heart of it…

]]> By: SisterDiane http://www.craftypod.com/2009/12/03/indie-publishing-stories-part-2-the-new-craft/comment-page-1/#comment-69665 SisterDiane Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:47:56 +0000 http://www.craftypod.com/?p=1680#comment-69665 BOY, are you correct there - the value of content is an enormous <br>discussion!<br><br>And we are in a total frontier moment with the pricing of digital <br>material - which is really in some ways "pure content." It's hard to <br>find a price point people will readily pay - and still challenging for <br>people who buy digital content to find out in advance whether the <br>content is of good quality. You can thumb through a magazine on the <br>newsstand and see if it's something you want to buy, but that's a lot <br>harder to offer with an ebook.<br><br>Anyway. I could go on about this stuff all day. :-) BOY, are you correct there – the value of content is an enormous
discussion!

And we are in a total frontier moment with the pricing of digital
material – which is really in some ways “pure content.” It's hard to
find a price point people will readily pay – and still challenging for
people who buy digital content to find out in advance whether the
content is of good quality. You can thumb through a magazine on the
newsstand and see if it's something you want to buy, but that's a lot
harder to offer with an ebook.

Anyway. I could go on about this stuff all day. :-)

]]> By: tortagialla http://www.craftypod.com/2009/12/03/indie-publishing-stories-part-2-the-new-craft/comment-page-1/#comment-69664 tortagialla Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:36:01 +0000 http://www.craftypod.com/?p=1680#comment-69664 Thanks for the response! I suppose advertisers have been footing the bill for too long and we the public do have to pay for content more consciously than ever before. I've certainly changed a bit myself in that paying $15 or $20 a magazine isn't too much when I really want the content. It does bring up an interesting issue of online versus print content - it costs less to buy the PDF version versus print version of some content...but sometimes I'm not sure the pricing is accurate. To me anyway, it seems the value of the content tends to get skewed...or more often than not undervalued. Thanks for the response! I suppose advertisers have been footing the bill for too long and we the public do have to pay for content more consciously than ever before. I've certainly changed a bit myself in that paying $15 or $20 a magazine isn't too much when I really want the content. It does bring up an interesting issue of online versus print content – it costs less to buy the PDF version versus print version of some content…but sometimes I'm not sure the pricing is accurate. To me anyway, it seems the value of the content tends to get skewed…or more often than not undervalued.

]]> By: SisterDiane http://www.craftypod.com/2009/12/03/indie-publishing-stories-part-2-the-new-craft/comment-page-1/#comment-69661 SisterDiane Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:08:34 +0000 http://www.craftypod.com/?p=1680#comment-69661 I agree with you - it's definitely a hard moment in magazine <br>publishing. I believe print mags will eventually come back but I see <br>two evolutions needing to happen: first, publishers will hopefully <br>grow to operate in a leaner, more profitable way. They'll have to find <br>other ways to monetize besides print advertising. And I think they'll <br>have to evolve their content so that it's more distinct and special <br>when held up next to online craft content. (Which, for the record, I <br>think CRAFT did extremely well.)<br><br>And then, we (the magazine-buying public) need to evolve, too. We've <br>had a pretty easy ride with content for a long time - because <br>advertisers were footing most of the bill. But, buffeted with ads for <br>decades, we're all pretty good at tuning them out now. If we want to <br>avoid so much advertising in our lives, then we have to pay more to <br>support the people who create the content we consume.<br><br>It'll be chaotic for a while, but I think good things will come from <br>it eventually. I agree with you – it's definitely a hard moment in magazine
publishing. I believe print mags will eventually come back but I see
two evolutions needing to happen: first, publishers will hopefully
grow to operate in a leaner, more profitable way. They'll have to find
other ways to monetize besides print advertising. And I think they'll
have to evolve their content so that it's more distinct and special
when held up next to online craft content. (Which, for the record, I
think CRAFT did extremely well.)

And then, we (the magazine-buying public) need to evolve, too. We've
had a pretty easy ride with content for a long time – because
advertisers were footing most of the bill. But, buffeted with ads for
decades, we're all pretty good at tuning them out now. If we want to
avoid so much advertising in our lives, then we have to pay more to
support the people who create the content we consume.

It'll be chaotic for a while, but I think good things will come from
it eventually.

]]> By: fanieart http://www.craftypod.com/2009/12/03/indie-publishing-stories-part-2-the-new-craft/comment-page-1/#comment-69657 fanieart Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:05:09 +0000 http://www.craftypod.com/?p=1680#comment-69657 I am in love with their new design! I was wondering what they would do as they did say that they would come back online. I'm glad with the approach they took. <br><br>Maybe it could be interesting if they'd print "Special issues" with their "best of" or with a theme? I'd still love to get a little print in my hand once in awhile. :-) I am in love with their new design! I was wondering what they would do as they did say that they would come back online. I'm glad with the approach they took.

Maybe it could be interesting if they'd print “Special issues” with their “best of” or with a theme? I'd still love to get a little print in my hand once in awhile. :-)

]]> By: cinderellen http://www.craftypod.com/2009/12/03/indie-publishing-stories-part-2-the-new-craft/comment-page-1/#comment-69658 cinderellen Fri, 04 Dec 2009 12:06:12 +0000 http://www.craftypod.com/?p=1680#comment-69658 The new layout is stylish and attractive, although I got a bit turned around on it. I suspect that is because I came over in the middle via Twitter rather than starting at the home page. I miss the nice list of links from the old site, though. Like you, I am still mourning the demise of the print version. Obviously it could never be as up-to-the-minute current as a web only publication, but it was a great resource and so easy to take along. The new layout is stylish and attractive, although I got a bit turned around on it. I suspect that is because I came over in the middle via Twitter rather than starting at the home page. I miss the nice list of links from the old site, though. Like you, I am still mourning the demise of the print version. Obviously it could never be as up-to-the-minute current as a web only publication, but it was a great resource and so easy to take along.

]]> By: fuzzydragons http://www.craftypod.com/2009/12/03/indie-publishing-stories-part-2-the-new-craft/comment-page-1/#comment-69659 fuzzydragons Fri, 04 Dec 2009 10:29:53 +0000 http://www.craftypod.com/?p=1680#comment-69659 I think I could spend a lot of time there, lots to look at :) I think I could spend a lot of time there, lots to look at :)

]]> By: tortagialla http://www.craftypod.com/2009/12/03/indie-publishing-stories-part-2-the-new-craft/comment-page-1/#comment-69660 tortagialla Fri, 04 Dec 2009 07:52:22 +0000 http://www.craftypod.com/?p=1680#comment-69660 I love following CRAFT and definitely very sad that it's not in print. It's a bit depressing that a lot of great magazines have not been able to continue printing. I admit online has it's advantages of speed in dissemination and response to community...but everyone loves to own beautiful hard copies, touch and feel the paper as you flip through. It's a whole different experience. I wish there was a way to do both and somehow have them compliment each other - figure out how to keep both alive and thriving... I love following CRAFT and definitely very sad that it's not in print. It's a bit depressing that a lot of great magazines have not been able to continue printing. I admit online has it's advantages of speed in dissemination and response to community…but everyone loves to own beautiful hard copies, touch and feel the paper as you flip through. It's a whole different experience. I wish there was a way to do both and somehow have them compliment each other – figure out how to keep both alive and thriving…

]]> By: Chris http://www.craftypod.com/2009/12/03/indie-publishing-stories-part-2-the-new-craft/comment-page-1/#comment-69649 Chris Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:48:56 +0000 http://www.craftypod.com/?p=1680#comment-69649 oh, I love CRAFT. If I would keep up better, I would have known about this...<br><br>...well, earlier today. oh, I love CRAFT. If I would keep up better, I would have known about this…

…well, earlier today.

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